{"id":64708,"date":"2024-11-23T17:02:38","date_gmt":"2024-11-23T17:02:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tvbrazilusa.com\/2024\/11\/23\/steve-schirripa-and-michael-imperioli-talk-the-sopranos-at-25-rhode-island-and-more\/"},"modified":"2024-11-23T17:14:52","modified_gmt":"2024-11-23T17:14:52","slug":"steve-schirripa-and-michael-imperioli-talk-the-sopranos-at-25-rhode-island-and-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tvbrazilusa.com\/pt\/2024\/11\/23\/steve-schirripa-and-michael-imperioli-talk-the-sopranos-at-25-rhode-island-and-more\/","title":{"rendered":"Steve Schirripa and Michael Imperioli talk \u2018The Sopranos\u2019 at 25, Rhode Island, and more"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-8864793242727901\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<header class=\"m-article-header m-article-header--standard\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span id=\"article-header-primary-term\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"a-term a-term--primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.boston.com\/tag\/entertainment\/\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEntertainment\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"m-article-header__sub-headline\">Ahead of shows with Vincent \u201cBig Pussy\u201d Pastore,  the pals look back at the show that changed TV.<\/h2>\n<figure class=\"a-photo m-article-header__photo\"><figcaption class=\"a-photo__caption\">\n\tMichael Imperioli and Steve Schirripa<em> <\/em>\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/header>\n<p>Steve Schirripa and his pal love Westerly, R.I.<\/p>\n<p>The beaches, the theater \u2014 the meatballs.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>By his pal, I mean lil\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C-LcQpeymWH\/\"> Willieboy<\/a>, of course. Instagram\u2019s favorite pizza-loving dog.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Sopranos\u201d alum loves to take his #dogstagram star to Longo Ristorante Pizzeria in Westerly for their<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C23gTnRuKT2\/\"> meatball fix<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But yes, his other pal, Michael Imperioli, loves the food there, too. (\u201cThey know how to cook pasta to the right consistency,\u201d I<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CwfzEsPIBsn\/\">mperioli noted<\/a> last summer.)\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>So when Schirripa, Imperioli and Vinny \u201cBig Pussy\u201d Pastore are in the Ocean State this weekend, Schrippia tells me they\u2019ll hit up the Westerly joint \u201cfor the best meatballs in the country, as far as I\u2019m concerned.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa \u2014 who played Uncle Junior\u2019s right-hand-man, the model-train-loving Bobby \u201cBacala\u201d on The Sopranos \u2014 has<a href=\"https:\/\/www.boston.com\/culture\/celebs\/2024\/04\/08\/steve-schirripa-wants-to-live-in-rhode-islands-watch-hill-but-i-havent-done-that-well\/\"> spoken to me at length<\/a> about his love of Rhode Island before.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s one reason, he tells me, that he wanted to bring \u201cConversations with Sopranos Live \u2013 25th Anniversary Tour with Michael Imperioli, Steve Schirripa, and Vincent Pastore\u201d to Westerly\u2019s small theater, The United Theatre.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a small theater and <a href=\"https:\/\/unitedtheatre.org\/shows\/sopranos-live-25th-anniversary-tour-w-michael-imperioli-steve-schirripa-vincent-pastore\/\">already sold-out.<\/a> But \u201cI like that United Theater \u2014 it\u2019s a beautiful theater. And you know I love Westerly,\u201d <strong>he t<\/strong>ells me in a phone interview from his southern California home. (I do.)<\/p>\n<p>If you missed out, mark your calendar for their next New England stop: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.palacetheaterct.org\/shows-and-events\/main-stage\/sopranos\">The Palace Theater in Waterbury, Connecticut, on Jan. 25.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I caught up with Schirripa, 67, and Imperioli, 58, co-hosts of the HBO podcast<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hbo.com\/talking-sopranos-podcast\"> \u201cTalking Sopranos\u201d<\/a> and co-authors of the <em>New York Times<\/em> bestselling \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/woke-up-this-morning-michael-imperiolisteve-schirripa?variant=40999053426722\">Woke Up This Morning.<\/a>\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-live-show\"><strong>The live show<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The live shows are relaxed, Schirripa says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cComedian Joey Kola travels with us. Very funny guy. Joey comes out, does about 15 minutes, then we show clips,\u201d Schirripa tells me. \u201cThen the three of us come out, Joey asks us questions, and we tell funny stories, funny behind-the-scenes stories that only people that were there would know. Very loose. It\u2019s a lot of fun. It\u2019s not serious. We have drinks. This isn\u2019t PBS.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli adds, \u201cThe last part is the most fun because we open it up to the audience and you never know what people will ask.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And boy, do they have questions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh, man, they ask all kinds of stuff,\u201d Imperioli tells me in a phone interview from his New York home.\u00a0 \u201cWhat certain things mean \u2014 like 3 o\u2019clock, which comes up a lot in the show.\u00a0 A lot of people, to be honest, know the show better than we do. They\u2019ve watched it more, they\u2019ve studied it \u2014 some of these fans are quite obsessed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And of course, they want to know about the ending.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa told me previously that his thoughts have changed over the years. \u201cI used to always think Tony Soprano was alive and well \u2026 After doing the podcast, I kind of think he\u2019s dead.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli tells me, \u201cI always interpreted it as it\u2019s the last thing Tony sees before he dies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But when it aired, his first thought \u201cwas that the cable went out. I\u2019d talked to David \u2014 because I was also a writer on the show at times \u2014 so I had conversations about story, and I remember him saying, \u2018Everything goes to black\u2019 at least a year before we shot the end. I didn\u2019t really quite take that in. When it happened, I forgot he\u2019d said that. The next day, I was like, \u2018<em>Ohhh,<\/em> that\u2019s what he was talking about.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It may have felt vague to some, but Imperioli says, \u201cWhat would have been a more satisfying ending? If he was murdered in front of us? Shot in front of his family? If he killed the New York boss? What would have been satisfying? In some ways, it was the perfect way to end.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-podcast\"><strong>The podcast<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>\u201cThe Sopranos\u201d aired from 1999 to 2007 \u2014 but until they started the podcast in 2020, neither actor had rewatched episodes since the original air-dates.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen the show was over, we all moved on. I didn\u2019t want to look back,\u201d Imperioli says. \u201cThen Jim passed away in 2013 and I <em>really<\/em> didn\u2019t want to look at it. When we did the podcast, we had to look. The beauty was, a lot of time had passed \u2014 we weren\u2019t so wrapped up in it. Watching the show while we were doing it was strange because you\u2019re worried about your own performance, where your character was going, this and that. [By 2020] we were way past all that, so we were finally able to almost watch it as a fan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLooking at it just as a viewer \u2014 it\u2019s <em>really <\/em>entertaining,\u201d Imperioli says. Held against \u201ca lot of other great shows it gets compared to \u2014 \u201cThe Wire\u201d or \u201cBreaking Bad\u201d \u2014 \u201cThe Sopranos\u201d had this other level of entertainment. Sometimes it was a slapstick-comedy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa adds, \u201cYou got to remember, we didn\u2019t watch the show for 20 years, me and Michael. When you\u2019re in it, you don\u2019t realize how good it is. But looking back, you go, \u2018<em>Wow.\u2019<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In working on the podcast, they also learned a lot. Both told me they were shocked to learn that Jerry Stiller, aka \u201cSeinfeld\u2019s\u201d Frank Costanza, was cast as Hesh.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>(I mean, we all are. \u201cI\u2019m like the Phoenix, <em>rising from Arizona<\/em>, Tony!\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJerry actually had the role,\u201d Schirripa told me previously. \u201cHe was supposed to start work Monday; he took a commercial on a Friday because it paid more.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-favorite-episodes\">Favorite episodes<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cMy favorite is \u2018Whitecaps,\u2019 because the acting between Jim [Gandolfini] and Edie [Falco] is just incredible,\u201d says Schirripa. \u201cThat\u2019s as good acting as you\u2019ll ever see. Of course, \u2018Pine Barrens.\u2019 I like \u2018The Lake House\u2019 because of the big fight with Bobby and Tony.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli also loves \u201cPine Barrens.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(We all do. It\u2019s a<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=pine+barrens+sopranos+shirt&#038;sca_esv=2a63e8a7ece273e3&#038;rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS916US916&#038;udm=2&#038;biw=1332&#038;bih=574&#038;ei=js5AZ7nmOfCgiLMP8_GigAQ&#038;oq=pine+barrens+sopranos++&#038;gs_lp=EgNpbWciF3BpbmUgYmFycmVucyBzb3ByYW5vcyAgKgIIBzIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgARIvTRQhhFYhhFwAngAkAEAmAFEoAFEqgEBMbgBAcgBAPgBAZgCA6ACTsICBBAAGB6YAwCIBgGSBwEzoAfeBQ&#038;sclient=img#vhid=qtoefZufrvCAyM&#038;vssid=mosaic\"> T-shirt<\/a> for a reason.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd I love \u2018The Ride,\u2019\u201d Imperioli says. \u201cThere was that sequence to the song \u2018The Dolphins\u2019 [by Fred Neil] and Christopher\u2019s high on heroin. He goes to the feast. That\u2019s a personal favorite. I love the intervention episode [\u2018The Strong, Silent Type\u2019] just as far as intensity and depth. I love \u2018Long Term Parking,\u2019 when I find out Adriana is working with the feds. That was a challenging one.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-auditions\">The auditions<\/h3>\n<p>Growing up in Brooklyn, Schirripa didn\u2019t want to be an actor. \u201cNot at all,\u201d he told me previously. \u201cI never knew what I wanted to be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He majored in phys ed at Brooklyn College, \u201cbut then I student-taught, and didn\u2019t think I\u2019d be any good. I didn\u2019t know what I wanted to do. I went to Vegas, was a ma\u00eetre d\u2019, a bouncer, worked my way up to hotel executive.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In Vegas, \u201cComics would put me in a little sketch; I liked it. Then somebody else offered something else. A casting person saw me and offered me something else \u2026 I got the bug.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A small role in \u201cCasino\u201d earned him a SAG card. (\u201cThey didn\u2019t put me in the credits, which annoyed me.\u201d)\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli, meanwhile, wanted to be pre-med at one point. \u201cBut I never made it that far. I wound up going to acting school,\u201d he tells me.<\/p>\n<p>Growing up in New York, \u201cI loved Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, Jon Voight, Marlon Brando, Robert Duvall, Meryl Streep. I started reading a lot of plays in my high school library. I read Edgar Allan Poe\u2019s \u2018The Tell-Tale Heart\u2019 in 10th grade English, and my teacher said, \u2018You know, you should join the drama club.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That idea, though, \u201cwas not appealing. I didn\u2019t want to be on stage in front of my high school class. But I did start thinking: Did I want to be a writer? Director? Producer? Actor? But those things seemed impossible. I\u2019m from a blue-collar family from New York. It was, how do you go into that business? It seemed like such a crapshoot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He went to<a href=\"https:\/\/strasberg.edu\/\"> Lee Strasberg Institute<\/a> \u201cand started making my way.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, he worked \u201cmostly in the restaurant business.\u201d He was determined to make it as an actor, though \u201cthere were times I thought it would be impossible. The rejection was so overwhelming that I was like, \u2018This could maybe never happen.\u2019 The first four or five years, it was a lot of that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI always tell people: you have to be in it for the long-run. You have to just say: \u2018I\u2019m gonna stick it out.\u2019 Even after having success, sometimes you\u2019re out of work for a while,\u201d Imperioli said. \u201cIt\u2019s unpredictable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A big break came with landing the role of Spider in Martin Scorsese\u2019s \u201cGoodfellas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt the same time, after that movie came out, I was still working in restaurants. I did start getting cast more, mostly independent movies. But it was another couple of years before I was making a living,\u201d Imperioli says.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d always thought it interesting that so many \u201cGoodfellas\u201d actors \u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/thelistwire.usatoday.com\/lists\/actors-goodfellas-sopranos-tony-sirico-michael-imperioli-lorraine-bracco\/\"> about 27<\/a> \u2014 were cast on \u201cThe Sopranos.\u201d\u00a0 Imperioli explained, \u201cHow it really worked was David [Chase] saw a movie, \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0117958\/\">Trees Lounge<\/a>,\u2019 (1996) directed, written and starring Steve Buscemi. David loved the casting. So he hired [those casting directors] Sheila Jaffe and Georgianne Walken \u2014 Georgianne being the wife of Christopher Walken. I\u2019d done several movies with them; they would always bring me in if I was remotely right for anything. That\u2019s really how that came about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He adds, \u201cThe Italian American acting community in New York is kind of small, to be honest. A lot of us on \u2018The Sopranos\u2019 had worked together on a number of things beforehand. I didn\u2019t know Steve Schirripa, because he was in Vegas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa<strong> <\/strong>told me previously he originally auditioned for the role of a lieutenant on \u201cThe Sopranos,\u201d but casting directors thought he was a better Bobby.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, though, \u201cI was an executive at a hotel in Las Vegas, dabbling in acting as a hobby.\u201d When they called him back for Bobby, \u201cI wasn\u2019t going to do it because I didn\u2019t want to spend the money [on the flight and hotel], to be honest. [My wife] urged me: \u2018You\u2019re only happy when you\u2019re doing this,\u2019 so I did it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli auditioned for Christoper right away.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh, I loved the character,\u201d he tells me. \u201cI love the fact that he really wanted success, that he was interested in Hollywood, interested in being a mob boss. That he was a drug addict. He had a lot of obstacles, and he was always battling them. The stakes were always very high for that character \u2014 for an actor, that\u2019s gold.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Of course, prestige TV didn\u2019t exist at the time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAn HBO series was like the bargain basement of television\u201d at the time, Imperioli says. The pilot \u201cwas really a long shot \u2014 I didn\u2019t think much was going to come of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A surprise: the pilot was greenlit. A year later, they shot season one.<\/p>\n<p>Still, \u201cit\u2019s really hard to tell how far the series would go, and how deep it would go, and how interesting it would be,\u201d Imperiolli says.\u00a0\u201dThere wasn\u2019t any series on cable. The cursing, nudity, violence \u2014 are people going to want to watch this show?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There was a magic to the show, both agree.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDavid had taken it to numerous places, he couldn\u2019t get it on, it landed at HBO, which was the right spot,\u201d Schrippia says.\u00a0 \u201cI think it\u2019s held up. I think it\u2019s a very smart show. It\u2019s deep.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-death-scenes\">Death scenes<\/h3>\n<p>So what did Imperioli think of the way Christopher died?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought it made a lot of sense, in terms of how it starts between Tony and Christopher. Christopher is really a kid in the pilot. He\u2019s in his 20s; he\u2019s very childish. Throughout the series, he really evolves and matures in ways, taking on more adult problems and responsibilities,\u201d he tells me.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTheir relationship going from Tony being a father-figure, to Tony being a rival \u2014 it was an interesting journey,\u201d he said. For Christopher, to end up shot by Tony, was \u201can important part of Tony\u2019s story \u2014 that\u2019s how far <em>he had<\/em> to go. To murder someone who was kind of his protege, kind of like a son. But at the end of the day, it\u2019s a dog-eat-dog world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa told me previously, when Bobby died \u2014 in season 6, episode 20 \u2013 \u201cat that point, it didn\u2019t matter, because the show was over. If they\u2019d killed me off sooner, I would\u2019ve felt terrible. Vinnie Pastore [Big Pussy] got killed in season 2. You\u2019re out of work, let\u2019s not kid ourselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-gang-s-all-here\"><strong>Gang\u2019s all here<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>A quarter century after the finale, \u201cThe Sopranos\u201d cast remains tight.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In June,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C8NUAF1yzpH\/?img_index=2\"> a slew talked \u201cSopranos<\/a>\u201d for a 25th anniversary at Tribeca Film Fest. It was also a celebration of HBO\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hbo.com\/wise-guy-david-chase-and-the-sopranos\">Wise Guy: David Chase and The Sopranos<\/a>,\u201d about the creator, head writer, and executive producer of the show. That special is streaming now on MAX.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, this trio of buddies are on tour telling tales now. On stage, they talk often about two late great pals, Gandolfini and Tony \u201cPaulie Walnuts\u201d Sirico.<\/p>\n<p>Schrippia remains close with Uncle Ju, actor Dominic Chianese. \u201cI just saw Dominic, he\u2019s 93 years old. He lives in London,\u201d said Schrippia. (His<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DBO8cPpRxTd\/\"> Instagram post<\/a> (#pals) will give you all the feels.)\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI see<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C5JEmzTrG-c\/\"> Edie [Falco] at the Knicks<\/a> games. She\u2019s a big Knicks fan,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C6B97uFL7pA\/?img_index=1\"> as I am<\/a>,\u201d he adds.<\/p>\n<p>Imperioli says he\u2019s friends with \u201ca lot\u201d of the old gang.\u00a0 \u201cA lot of us knew each other [from before the show] and then having this big success together bonded us even further. It was a very meaningful ride.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-current-day\">Current day<\/h3>\n<p>Both have been busy.\u00a0 Imperioli starred in HBO\u2019s \u201cWhite Lotus\u201d before making his Broadway debut with \u201cSuccession\u201d alum Jeremy Strong earlier this year.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>You can see him now in the current season of \u201cAmerican Horror Story\u201d streaming on Hulu, and in \u201cOh Canada,\u201d co-starring Richard Gere, Uma Thurman and Jacob Elordi.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Schirripa, meanwhile, is wrapping CBS\u2019s \u201cBlue Bloods\u201d with his Massachusetts co-stars Donnie Wahlberg and Bridget Moynahan. The finale airs Dec. 13. Schirripa played Detective Anthony Abetemarco three times as long as he played Bobby on \u201cThe Sopranos.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And yes,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DBMQSK9RVG0\/\"> Willieboy starred in a final season<\/a> episode. \u201cHe has a scene with Bridget Moynihan and Peter Herman. He was very good on set. Very patient. And he was treated like a king.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(Idea: Willieboy-spinoff.)<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s next for \u00a0Schirripa?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf something good comes my way. I\u2019ll do it. If not, I\u2019m just looking to hang out. I\u2019ve worked for 24 years straight as an actor \u2014 before then 20 years in the casino business. I\u2019ve been working a long time,\u201d he tells me. \u201cI got a couple of ideas, another book, maybe. When I did the other shows, I was always worried \u2013 I<em> gotta work, gotta work<\/em>. I don\u2019t have that pressure. If I want to work, I will, if not \u2014 we ride off into the sunset.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Either way, Willieboy will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DAzIAAXyLOo\/\">be at his side<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNot a day goes by that someone doesn\u2019t say, Where\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C_lQXzevGak\/\">Willie?<\/a> They stop me in New York \u2014\u00a0 \u2018Is that Willie?!\u2019 \u2018Can I take a picture with him?\u2019\u201d \u00a0Schirripa says with a laugh.\u00a0 \u201cThey don\u2019t want to take a picture with me. But they see Willie, and they\u2019re stunned.\u201d<em>Lauren Daley is a freelance writer. She can be reached at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.boston.com\/cdn-cgi\/l\/email-protection\" class=\"__cf_email__\" data-cfemail=\"6509010409001c5656250208040c094b060a08\">[email\u00a0protected]<\/a>. 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